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Subject: ...and the band keeps playin' on the ELEVEN
Here we go...Song comin' on So pleasing to see!!Thank You Good Buddy
Furthurite in Seattle 3/5/10 now in Boston 11/11/11 - Furthur's first Eleven
Subject: love of the music
This sounds really grate.Just so glad these guys can still play like they always have.They are real troubadours of psycedelic rock.I havent got to see them yet since further got together but am looking forward to it.They sound alot better and tighter than the dead did in 94' and 95'.KEEP IT UP GUYS.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME. This is great stuff for post dead.
Subject: FURTHUR & BEYOND
Oh my ....would some of you PLEASE accept the fact that Jerry is gone...and the MUSIC is what matters...this was never a cult of personality.
For the sake of arguement, imagine you are a classical music afficienado. Would you attend Carnegie Hall to hear Beethoven, only to complain it wasn't "good enough" because HE wasn't there? With all the dreck that passes for music these days , can you not find it to be WONDERFUL that these folks are STILL bringing these AWESOME tunes to us? Please "don't dominate the rap Jack, if you've got nothing new to say"
WOW! I think this is deffinately bob and phils best band since 95.
Subject: to all haters
c'mon guys, it's not '76-'77,when the boys were rippin it up at Cornell, or '89-'90 before Brent died and Jerry began his downward spiral. Jerry's been gone almost FIFTEEN years!!! And I think this is the best band they've put together since then. Whoever said they have no energy is sorely mistaken, they sound great, and JK playing lets Bobby & Phil do what they used to do with the Grateful Dead, + or - a few things. I was like Dr. Jerome, in'92-'94 I'd go to DEAD shows and say after I got out of a show I'd say"if they don't redeem themselves I'm not coming back!" But I always came back, and after Jerry died Istill came back, to Ratdog, Phil&friends,2003Dead,whatever.I'll bethere in Feb.and love it. And if Mickey and Billy come join them let's say this summer, I'll be there too. How can you not? I don't even know what I'm saying anymore, but this is good F#@*ing music no matter how you slice it!! As far as THIS show, I'm listening to it and likin' it!! ALOT!!!
Just listening to Althea thru the rest of the show, it sounds as good as any dead show I ever listened to. period.
seems some people comment here to hate just cuz.
listen to it!! hear the inner ping!!
or go away :)
Subject: nice & tight
a real treat! i agree with the last reviewer -- def no 5-star show. but i disagree about bob bein' the main man -- that job is now PHIL'S!!! And Bob sounds in better control (and better behaved!) than i've heard him in years!! and sorry, but i think jk is super tasty on the leads -- yeah, i know, he "does" jerry, but DSO shows are flawless, and that's the point! i'm super pleased with this show, and now even more psyched that i have my tix for miami in feb.!!
Subject: not much energy
Look folks, not even all GD shows are 5 star shows. Sorry to say so but this effort is not hugely inspired, it sounds like they are having a hard time just getting though the songs. Yes I'm glad the boy's are out there but I do wish there would surround themselves with better musicians. Bobby has to much weight in these new formations. He was o.k. when Jerry was there as a counter balance. Remember Bobby was super cheesy and had a tendency to sing horribly off key back when the band was at prime. It can be argued the GD was great despite Bobby not because of Bobby. Now he is the main man.
I ask that people that write review please consider NOT instantly rating 5 starts just because it was "listenable". Go out there and listen to some classic show and see if the one you are rating truly deserves all 5 stars... A 3 star show is still good it just don't bite your head off!
Subject: Just a bit more
If I was a betting man, you might want to place a bet that these Furthur shows are the warm up for another tour by THE DEAD. Summer 2010.. 4 out of 6 members are playing together... simply insert Mickey and Billy and we are off and touring. JK quite DSO... I wonder why? See you this summer!!! Giddy up!
Subject: definitely further...
Well, I haven't listened to the whole thing, but I just wanted to throw in another positive review... I really am enjoying this version of St. Stephen with phil and bobby singing,
The show has great sound and energy. Thanks for posting this. I feel so lucky to get to listen to this free!
These guys need to drink some red bull. Throw in some red bull and i'd give it five.
Subject: Inspiration Move Me Brightly
Didn't get to make up to this show:( But I did get to see the Sunday Show which was amazing. Don't worry about people having negative opinions of JK or ideas about Bobby and Phil hangin it up. We love this stuff and thats all that matters, don't let the negative vibes cause you to lose your high. Just keep smilin' cause you are in on the secret. I am 24 years old and I have been a deadhead since I was in the womb, It keeps me going when I am having a bad day. I am so glad I been able to see The Dead 3 times this year, Ratdog once and finally Furthur I really needed it. Stop worrying about what people think and get back to groovin'. If you get confused listen to the music play...
Subject: Response to Lovehaight:
It seems there are a lot of people disappointed with this group. I have no idea why! This band is way better than Ratdog! This show is blowing me away! So what, they brought in the DSO guitar player! He sounds just like Jerry...THAT'S THE POINT! I don't care if it's not original! Bob and Phil ran out of good songs years ago! Remember the last time the Dead tried to write songs? Liberty, Corrina, WAVE TO THE WIND...need I say more? When I go to a show, I want to dance to a set list like this! I want to hear Saint Stephen and Eleven, and hear a guitar player that sounds like Jerry! This show is amazing, the musicians are killer! Bobby and Phil are shining! There is no annoying sax player! I am in love! I hope they tour often! This show gives me hope for the future after seeing many 2 star Ratdog shows!
Subject: It's like this........
I walked into a record shop back around 1968 or so and asked the sales guy about this new Psychadelic music, and what would be a good record to purtchase.I was presented with Vanilla Fudge and the Grateful Dead. I opted for the Dead. Didnt understand it much- it sure was different, but after my 1st show at the Fillmore in 1970 ( I was still 16) I fell in love with those guys. I guess if I learned anything, it is the ZEN of it all. It is what it is.It is not to be judged, for every show is different and unique. They all pass thru our lives. So What it is is that some shows seems to pass, some linger and some, well you always think about them and pull out that old tape to give a listen once again- yeah like 5-8-77 and 5-9-77.AS for me, at 56 years of age, with 40 of them enjoying shows and concerts, I am so Grateful for the continuity. What a long strange trip it's been- and every step is part of the journey. As always- Thanks to the band for the playin' and the "tapers" for the sharin'
Subject: The boys are back...
Love/Haight is a sad little person. May he learn to groove in the present. Furthur was simply the best Grateful Dead music since 1990-91. Everyone who was at these shows - and I was up front at all three - knows the magic was back, not like a trickle but a flood. Yippeee.
The second set here is really a treat. Love it, beginning with Scarlet all the way through. Absolutely terrific St. Stephen>Eleven in my opinion.
Life is now. Thanks to Furthur for making me smile, smile, smile.
Dr. Jerome -
Subject: Highway Snobbery
I saw most of my shows from the mid to late Eighties, and I became one of those annoying snobs who compared one show to the next and was rarely satisfied with post Brent shows. I saw my first GD related show in a decade up at Chautauqua Park, and quite frankly it was misery. At times Ratdog sounded as if they were trying to play four different songs at once. Weir's singing was nothing short of bizarre. The clips I have heard from the three Further nights at the Warfield, however, are outstanding. Jerry, of course, is irreplaceable, but Weir sounds 15 years younger than he did in August, and the music is cohesive and makes sense. Of course it's not the Grateful Dead, but these road warriors still have a lot of good music in them. Nice job, boys!
Subject: You may need to hang it up loveHATE
Amazing stuff has been going on in the past decade of so. Jerry is the man we all know that, but I have ejoyed listening to Phil's groups, some of Bobby's stuff, and especially this past spring's tour. I am jealous of anyone whe had the opportunity to be at the Futhur shows this fall. I imagine being there was awesome. Lighten up lovehate, I think you may be confused my friend. It's time to listen to the music play.
To have this guy aping Jerrys guitar is too much..it's time for Phil and Bob to hang it up if they have to resort to this...this guy doesn't have a original bone in his body...and his voice is completely annoying..listen to him trying to copy Jerrys inflection, it's fucking disgraceful
Subject: Soundboard Copies
First of all, to the detractors and arm chair quarterbacks who feel it necessary to write a negative review of music played by ANYONE who has "been there" such a as Phil and Bobby and the rest of the group....Just shut up and save your critique for yourself, unless you can get up on stage and do a better job. Sorry, I just had to say that, because if I was in the company of those people, I would tell them that to their face.
For the person ranting about having to listen to this or any shows only on their computer, there is an easy way to get the files permanantly.....
1) Play the show on your computer using whatever program you wish..I use Windows Media Player as it is easy to use...
2)Once you play the show, it will show up in your temporary internet files as an mp3 file.. look for it in the temporary folder file and you will see the files. Usually they will show up as a group together in one place as mp3 files with the name of the show.
3) Copy the files and then paste them into a folder which you will make somewhere on your computer..I have a "My Music" file on my hard drive. (You can make the folder ahead of time prior to downloading the temp files...does not matter). To copy files press left side mouse button just to the right upper corner of the files and holding left mouse button down, drag diagonally down to the right bottom of files and they will be highlighted. Then Click right side mouse on these highlighted files and hit copy. They are in your copy memory.. then go to your folder you made...right click and hit "paste". Boom...You have the show. (It is OK to grab other files when copying..just paste them along with the music files and then erase them once you have pasted in your folder..won't hurt anything to erase these "copied" files). I am by no means a computer geek, but this is the simplist way I have found to get files. I hope I am not breaking any laws with this. I use these files for my listening only, since my kids like hip hop and my wife couldn't care less.
Subject: love/height or just an ass?
I have seen a hundred Grateful Dead shows and another hundred shows featuring other variations of all the band members under differant titles and they all contain good shows and bad but one common factor remains in all of them .... It is all what you make of it. So for those of you wishing to make it shit (love/height) so be it but remember this... I saw many of the shows on Jerrys final tour and if you want to knock these shows you better man up and admit to the dismal god-awful presence and sound of Jerry on most of that final tour and also that short of a miricle and Jerry finally sobering up we were to never hear anything worthwhile out of that original line up again. So as much as I miss him (like all of us)I realize that thru his death we have gained untold hours of unbelievable music that otherwise would have never been. I am grateful for the people still willing to bring us this wonderful music and by doing so keeping the flame of our community alive.
Subject: Boy howdy!
Totally Gellin! I've been looking for this for some time now. John K really stepped up to the plate. The boyz are hitting on all cylinders. ...making me feel all gooey inside.. hair on back of neck and all that... Woo HOO!!!!
Subject: Whats Not to like
I agree the lovehaight (lovehate) review was negative. Here again is someone who can't have the Jerry role played by anyone who sounds like Jerry, I understand but not my feelings. I saw all three shows, it was truely magical & the music sacred me at times because it sounded so right for the first time in a long time for me. The comments about Bobby & Phil having to deal with less & just play their instruments was so true. JK has a black belt in the GD songbook. He knows the tunes & understands the energy which makes them shine. He knows when to play less, louder, climax leads & all the intro & outro's riffs that make the song sound correct were there. I felt inspired after I left the Fox each night. I wasn't hoping it sounded better, I was hoping I could take it all in, it was overwhelming at times. If bobby & Phil want to play this music & still have something to explore with these songs, then why not John on the lead role, we have had everyone else, he really gets it he has soul.
Shiva Ho -
Subject: Guess We all can't have our heads up our @$$
Some people are so miserable that they feel the need to try & dump it on others... don't buy it!
Wow Love DSO & John & Of course the Boys...
Can't wait for the East Coast shows...
I found these shows to be a great addition to the GD body of work that for me has never stopped being inspirational to everything else in my life....
Love that they've posted this board... Nice Crispy Board...
For all those who want this show I suggest getting
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Subject: lovehaight has it all wrong
I attended all three nights. This review applies to all of them.
Of course Jerry is gone and I miss him as much as anyone.
But the previous reviewer's (lovehaight) negativity is not appropriate. Essentially he/she is arguing that Phil and Bobby can't play GD songs anymore, because *no one* is Jerry.
That is BS. P&F, for example, has done great work. The fact that Jerry is gone is a fact, but doesn't prevent the songs from living on.
As far as FURTHUR, these were great shows. Bobby was in a great voice, his guitar playing was precise and economical, and Phil was truly amazing. I think Phil has done great work with his band over the years, but my sense of these shows was that Phil was liberated by not having to play the role of band leader.
The rest of the band was superb, too. Chimenti is a really super keyboard player who sounded better and better each of the three nights, the drummers were tasteful and played the songs at the proper tempos, and what you called JK's "aping" of JG meant that the songs tended to hang together well because the guitar parts did what they were supposed to do, so Bobby and Phil weren't constantly getting distracted by someone who doesn't know the songs. Actually I liked JK a lot and think he sounds great on these tapes.
So the one * rating that reviewer offered is also BS. Its also unfair and misleading to people who just look at the summary ratings.
Dylan M -
Subject: Great show
Thanks for this nice matrix and dsbd. keep it coming!
Subject: amazing first night
Had a blast at this show! i have to say as i believe most people that went also said, the second set was much better than the first, you could feel they were still new and workin out the kinks on the first set...still amazing!
as for buddy who cant download on stream only...there is downloadable versions around...on bt.etree.org
Theres so much i could say, but im gonna try n keep it short. i think having JK was a grate idea, many people have mixed feelings...and i can see why they would but i still believe he was an excellent choice. reasons i'll explain another time.
enjoy the show...hopefully they release a complete DSBD copy!
cant wait for the next two nights!
Subject: stream only = silly policy
Thanks for not allowing me to enjoy this in my car, or while taking a walk, or at the gym...but rather only tied to my computer instead.
Subject: Great Stuff
Like Gregulator I'd give it a "5". The real deal, if you will. As for Bob and The Eleven, I found his finely tuned enunciations at the end "touching".
And as for why must Bob do it this way? Because Bob *MUST*. Enough said. :-)
Wonderful idea bringing the DSO guitarist on board. And kudos to the band for the multiple decades of wonderful musical iterations I have had the pleasure to enjoy.
Strangers stopping strangers, just to shake their hands. Jerry Be.
Subject: real deal
Indeed, it is...except for The Eleven, which is butchered, again, by Bob Weir. Why does he insist on singing the entire song himself? Personally, I enjoy the way the Grateful Dead did it in the 60's, and of course, how Phil and Friends arranged the song, with multiple singers LAYERING the lyrics. Oh well, it has been this way all these years(post Jerry), why would he give it up now. IMO, this is the only part of this show that left me scratching my head. Other than that, and with John on lead it was very listenable anyway, this show is what many of us have been waiting for! Also, it is cool to get a raw SBD so soon, without all the remastering.
Subject: Driftin' & dreamin' still
Ok it nice to hear the first board out and if you can keep an open ear and heart you will be plesantly surprised and blown a way at parts too.
I think it is fair to say that 2009 is wrapping up to be a rennaisance year for the GD song book and the new musical relationship of Booby and Phil, it just seems to be getting better and better and the year is far from over.
I for one support John joining the mix and wish him the best.The music just seems to flow much more naturally too.
The first set has some memorable moments, I really like the Wheel and Jack Straw, but things really take off at Let It Grow. Once JK settles into his tone he really spins a spectatular version, reminscent of a late 80's version.
Set two contines in this '80's mind set with a stunning Lost Sailor> Saint of Cirmcumstance that was much better than the one I saw in Nassua.Then to follow it up with a incredible Althea, the ending is off the charts, which is a mind blower.
Scarlet is easily on of the best in years,although that one in Worcester was very close, Phil is so passionate on it. He evens teases a GDTRFB at the end. The Fire is also nice, short by most standards, but really well played.
The Eleven is also incredible and the Terrapin is beautiful. They end it by going old school and every one at the Fox even sang too
A very auspicious begining for this new group.
See ya in December
tripper jon -
Subject: The Real Deal
If you haven't figured it out yet folks
This is the real deal.
I've never been more ready to take it furthur.